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Oraac Ensor
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Posted - 2013.03.17 11:47:00 -
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Lashenadeeka wrote:Alternate meaning for allowed = tolerated. No. |
Oraac Ensor
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Posted - 2013.03.17 12:03:00 -
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Lashenadeeka wrote:Oraac Ensor wrote:Lashenadeeka wrote:Alternate meaning for allowed = tolerated. No. Please explain how making alts with the buddy program has been NOT allowed over the past 4 years (so long as they weren't for gift farming or grief play purposes). Eh? Where did I say that? |
Oraac Ensor
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Posted - 2013.03.17 12:22:00 -
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Lashenadeeka wrote:Eighth bullet point in the buddy program list. Quote:The Buddy Program is intended for you to encourage new players to join EVE Online. Violating the purpose of the Buddy Program in any way or form is prohibited. Violations of this rule will be handled by EVE Online Customer Support, and action will be taken against players who violate this rule (including, but not limited to, warnings or bans of the offending accounts). I DO NOT remember this being there the last time I looked. Because inviting yourself is not encouraging new PLAYERS to join, it is violating the purpose of the Buddy Program and thusly bannable. So according to this new rule, we can no longer create alts whatsoever with the Buddy Program. CCP must clarify this issue and post an announcement regarding their stance or many players who are unaware of this change could potentially risk being banned. I think CCP clarified the issue reasonably well in the ninth bullet point, clearly visible immediately below the eighth: Quote:Abusing the Buddy System is considered an exploit and will not be tolerated. Incidents will be handled on a case by case basis and action taken may include bans for all accounts involved and/or confiscation of ISK and items. Abuse includes, but is not limited to; farming gifts, making throw-away alts for grief-play purposes. |
Oraac Ensor
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Posted - 2013.03.17 12:43:00 -
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iskflakes wrote:I would love to see a CCP response to the question below: "Is it a bannable offence to create an alt using the buddy programme?"
I strongly hope CCP's new bullet point is only to stop people creating suicide gank alts on 54 day trials. Let's wait and see if there's any clarification. So you didn't read the ninth bullet point? |
Oraac Ensor
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Posted - 2013.03.17 13:35:00 -
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Turrann Dallocort wrote:Um...if this is so, YES it is a change to something CCP has said in the past was Kosher!
I had an issue with a new account that I set up and not redeeming a CD code I had for upgrading it and receiving the implant that came with the code (my fault, should have put the code in BEFORE upgrading account). Sent in a petition to see if I might be able to retroactively use code. The response I was given, basically as I can not post the exact response, was the GM's recommendation to (1) send a buddy invite to myself to create a 21 day account, (2) activate this account using the CD-Key. This would give my new account 51 days of game time along with the implant AND this would allow me to claim a buddy reward on my own account, 30 day of game time.
So here is a GM telling me to send myself a buddy pass on Jan 9th of this year. So yes, CCP, this would be a change in what was previously allowed.
And while I am posting I would like to add that CCP needs to let me, pretty please, have a pink and purple hulk with sparkles. This thread is only on its second page.
Is it really too much trouble to read all of it before posting? |
Oraac Ensor
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Posted - 2013.03.17 13:43:00 -
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Lashenadeeka wrote:Oraac Ensor wrote: This thread is only on its second page.
Is it really too much trouble to read all of it before posting?
His story contains relevant information, and is entirely valid for this thread. Nope. Everything in his post is answered by the ninth bullet point in the buddy program T&C, as I've already pointed out.
So you haven't bothered to read through all of your own thread? Jeez . . . |
Oraac Ensor
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Posted - 2013.03.17 14:11:00 -
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Lashenadeeka wrote:I'm referring to THIS: Quote:The Buddy Program is intended for you to encourage new players to join EVE Online. Violating the purpose of the Buddy Program in any way or form is prohibited. Violations of this rule will be handled by EVE Online Customer Support, and action will be taken against players who violate this rule (including, but not limited to, warnings or bans of the offending accounts). Which is QUALIFIED by this:Quote:Abusing the Buddy System is considered an exploit and will not be tolerated. Incidents will be handled on a case by case basis and action taken may include bans for all accounts involved and/or confiscation of ISK and items. Abuse includes, but is not limited to, farming gifts and making throw-away alts for grief-play purposes. Ye gods . . . |
Oraac Ensor
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.03.17 14:29:00 -
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Lashenadeeka wrote:I think your interpretation is wrong, but mine could of course also be wrong. Only CCP can tell us, so let's sit tight and see what they have to say. They can't really ignore this. If your interpretation is correct, this:Quote:Abusing the Buddy System is considered an exploit and will not be tolerated. Incidents will be handled on a case by case basis and action taken may include bans for all accounts involved and/or confiscation of ISK and items. Abuse includes, but is not limited to, farming gifts and making throw-away alts for grief-play purposes. would be worded like this:Quote:Abusing the Buddy System is considered an exploit and will not be tolerated. Incidents will be handled on a case by case basis and action taken may include bans for all accounts involved and/or confiscation of ISK and items. Abuse includes, but is not limited to, farming gifts and making alts. The fact that a particular instance of alt creation has been cited tells us all we need to know. |
Oraac Ensor
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Posted - 2013.03.17 15:52:00 -
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Lashenadeeka wrote:Why is everyone assuming bullet point 9 overrules bullet point 8? Bullet point 9 read the way it does now before bullet point 8 was introduced. I'd suggest that the point about throw-away alts has been superceded.
For example, if I say Terms and conditions: 1. You can't do "X" 2. You can't do "X" if you intend to do "Y"
It does NOT mean that you can do "X" as long as you don't do "Y". They are seperate articles and must be read as such.
ONCE AGAIN: A new alt account is not a new player, is therefore violating the purpose of the buddy program, and under bullet point 8 the offending alt will be banned.
Bullet point eight says that the buddy program is intended to encourage new players.
True - but where does it state that to be its sole intention? |
Oraac Ensor
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Posted - 2013.03.17 16:15:00 -
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Lashenadeeka wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:t is not an abuse of the buddy invite system on it's own, as confirmed by a GM. Is that so hard to understand? As confirmed by a GM BEFORE the T&C's were changed - is that so hard to understand? Still having reading comprehension problems?Lashenadeeka wrote:He made that alt 17 days ago. The new bullet point didn't exist back then.
Grimbriar Blitz wrote:Yes it did, otherwise I wouldn't have petitioned. It wasn't that hard, was it?
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